Dan
Owner: Stuart Davidson
ISDS No. 357454
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Owners Comments:
Dan is a friendly nice natured dog.
He's an excellent worker both in fields and on the hill.
Natural driver and good at under hand work.
North Ayrshire Nursery Champion
Open Trial Winner
Eyetested Clear
DNA Normal for CEA, IGS, TNS, DM, PLL, MDR1, NCL5, MH, Raine,
GG, von Willebrands Type 2, Cystinuria.
Groesfaen Taff
Owner: Michael Davidson
ISDS No. 313191
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Owners Comments:
Taff has been a multi trial winner and honest working flock dog on a large estate with thousands of sheep.
He breeds power and style in to his offspring
Northtyne Norman
Owner: Mike Northwood
ISDS No. 357001
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Northtyne Norman is a proper dog.
Power to spare and never gives in.
Sired by Bobby Henderson's Skid out of Denwyn Dillys, who was identical to her father Ricky Hutchinson's Sweep
DNA Normal for
CEA
IGS
TNS
Early onset Deafness
NCL
Raine Syndrome
GGD
MDR
He is a carrier for SN, so must be mated Clear/Normal bitches.
Llangwm Tom
Owner: Aled Owen
ISDS No. 383250
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Tom is now my main dog. He has all the scope, power and control of my other Supreme winners.
He is the perfect cross for the modern bitch that has tension.
Tom can work 3 or 300.
DNA clear for CEA IGS TNS SN
DNA clear for 209 genetical tests
Rainow Todd
Owner: Michael Longton
ISDS No. 259253
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Owners Comments:
Rainow Todd is a free flanking fast moving dog with a good steady follow, he is quick to respond to any commands. He was fully broken by 9 months and ran in his first open aged 13 months gaining 6th prize. His offspring are proving to be keen to work sheep at a young age and are strong willed. There are videos of his offspring on youtube, just contact me for the links. He has a great hip score and also carries the red gene so can breed red pups.
Ben
Owner: Richard Millichap
ISDS No. 224339
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Ben is used as a top class hill dog at Hendre Owen Farm where his value, working upwards of fifteen hundred ewes and lambs and a 150 or so suckler cows, cannot be overstated. Add to this the fact that he has been supremely competitive on the trials field, winning more Open trials than Richard can remember, to go along with his impressive National and International resume. 1999-6th in the Welsh National and 7th in the Supreme Championship.
2002 5th in the World Trial and the winner of the One Man And His Dog televised trial; 2003 Reserve Supreme Champion and International Outwork Champion, and you have one of the greatest work dogs of the last decade.
Ben is producing quality hill and trial dogs to a variety of bitches. Taddymoor Cap, a Ben son, was placed in the top ten at the 2004 Supreme Championship and is a multiple Open trial winner; Richard Millichap's Lad, another Ben son, is also a multiple Open trial champion. Both will represent Wales at the coming World Championships in Ireland in July.
Microchip - 9810000000398214
Cap.
Owner: David Rees
ISDS No. 00/321721
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Owners Comments:
"Cap is a reliable outrunning dog with plenty of push on the heaviest of sheep. He is always coming forward but is easily handled. He is never off his feet and has quiet, natural power. He has a perfect temperament and has already proved himself to be a good sire. I have a really good one year old bitch from him who is demonstrating Cap's outwork and push on bigger numbers of sheep." He is DNA clear for CEA and is dual registered with both the ISDS and the Kennel Club.
The semen is eligible for Australia
CEA Normal
MDR 1 Negative
TNS Negative
NCL Negative
SN Negative
Zac
Owner: A.Llyr Evans
ISDS No. 309467
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Owners Comments:
Zac is a red and white smooth coated pricked eared dog and is the son of Gwynfor Owen's Zac ISDS Registration No 263935, which has been a popular stud dog and has gained a reputation as a very good breeder of working and trial dogs.
Zac is a quality type of dog and a natural out runner, a very good on his flanks and can handle all types of sheep with plenty of power when needed. He will give 100% on the farm working sheep and cattle and on the trials field where he won his first open trial when he was 16 months old and was also completing double fetch courses at that age. He is a very confident dog with a good temperament. He is DNA tested CEA Normal, therefore can never breed CEA affected puppies
D.O.B: 6/4/2010
Microchip no. 956000002341255
Dave
Owner: Donald Macdonald's
ISDS No. 261673
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Sire Bill (J K Kennedy) No 252806
Dam Connie (J K Kennedy) No 233290
Mac
Owner: Vic Morris
ISDS No. 183767
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Mac 183767. He was English National Champion 1994 and Reserve Supreme Champion in the same year. He was runner up to Johnny Wilson's Spot.
Mac is Sire of many excellent dogs and is the Grandsire to 3 very famous bitches.
Clwyd Nell 254027, Welsh National Champion with Gwyn Jones Penmachno 2010
Ewen Mackinnon's Nan 267451, multi trial winner and 2nd in the Scottish National.
James Mcgee's Becca 264339, 20005 reserve Supreme Champion. 2007 Irish National Champion and 2011 World Champion
Roy
Owner: Alan Wyn Jones
ISDS No. 239049
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Owners Comments:
Easily handled, good outrunner and excellent driver. A sensible dog with a good nature and a proven breeder
Bruce
Owner: Paddy Fanning
ISDS No. 330825
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Owners Comments:
In 2018, Bruce earned his place on the Irish team, putting up one of the All-Time scores in an Irish National of 212. He also went on to win Irish Driving Champion that year.
Bruce has a lot of feel and class and his a great dog to hold sheep on line either on the fetch or the drive. He is the sort of dog that can help a handler and will read sheep. He is a great dog at the pen, predicting a sheep's before it makes it.
Bruce is a litter brother to Supreme Chamipon Hutchinson's Jock. He is a son of Supreme Champion Brownlie's Mo. He is a son of two time Reserve Supreme Champion Hutchinson's Sweep. He is a grandson of Supreme Champion McVicar's Spot.
Bruce is clear for Eod, Igs, Sn, Tns and Cea.
Bruce has not been trialled very much and is handled by an average handler, in better hands, his ability could have been better exploited and much bigger results achieved.
Gelert
Owner: Susan Pearson
ISDS No. 00/32498
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A complete dog. Gelert is calm and powerful and a natural balancer of sheep, but has that built in forward step to control sheep that do not want to be moved. Winner of Novice trials and has open points. He has gathered mountains in Wales and has the right aptitude for trialing also.
DNA Normal for, CEA, TNS, SN,
Carrier for IGS
Hip score 11
Monty
Owner: Michael Longton
ISDS No. 257223
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Owners Comments:
Monty is a wonderful dog who always wants to be by my side helping me. He has the style for the trials field where he can either take flighty sheep gently or push heavy sheep round and also the power and natural ability to work a large flock of sheep. He won the 2004 English National at Piddinghoe by a clear margin of 13 points. He has a lovely friendly nature with people.
Jaff
Owner: Kevin Evans
ISDS No. 348341
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Jaff is breeding top quality pups and dogs.
World record pup by Jaff, sold July 2021 at Dolgellau farmers mart online sale for �10,600
DNA normal for TNS, IGS, SN and CEA
Ken
Owner: Kevin Davies
ISDS No.
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Ken is a very powerful dog and is a great work dog with stamina and attitude. He keeps his class under pressure and is as happy at work doing mountain gathers as he is on the trial field. Ken is full brother to Aled Owen's Gypsy.
Madog Mot
Owner: Cai Pritchard
ISDS No. 358982
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Owners Comments:
A chance to use a son of Aled Owen's Bob. Madog Mot is an A.I. son of Supreme and World Champion Bob, out of a daughter of Burndale Brad and Llangwm Glesni.
Mot is a machine and semen has been sent to Australia and New Zealand.
Llangwm Bud
Owner: Aled Owen
ISDS No. 361176
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Excited about this dog. Combining the bloodlines of his father Llangwm Cap and crossing them with a daughter of Pennant Williams Sweep.
Lines to Bobby Dalziel's Spot and Jim early in his pedigree, and two lines to Double Supreme winner Wisp. Power from Ron Bailey's Tod, Robin Dean's Roy and the forward gear of Neil Jones's Bob. Skill and style from Glyn' Jones, Bwlch Taff and the irrepressible Sidney Price's Davy. Plus two lines of Aled's Supreme and World champion's Roy and Bob.
DNA Normal for CEA,SN AND IGS.
DNA Carrier for TNS
Northtyne Boon
Owner: Mike Northwood
ISDS No. 351107
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A very exciting prospect. Semen already ordered and going to New Zealand. Good outrunner, full of desire to work sheep. Natural driver, and big engine.
D.N.A. Normal for CEA, IGS, TNS and SN
Sire Arne Sands Shep, from Norway.
Dam Queen, best bitch I have ever owned.
Boi
Owner: Kevin Davies
ISDS No.
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Boi was easily trained. He is a dog with high drive and wants to please me at all times. He is classy without that sticky eye or full of tension.
Boi has plenty of stamina and courage and is a pleasure to run on the open hill or mountain ground.
He can work 4 sheep in a trial or 400 on the farm.
He is a great listener and of strong athletic build.
Boi has tested normal with Mydogdna for 211 genetic diseases. this includes the EOD marker test.
His litter brother Oats is a very similar dog.
The pedigree is full of mainly Shepherd's dogs, whose main job is work first and trialling secondary. Many of the dogs in the pedigree have worked at international level.
Dunelle Harry
Owner: Michelle Anderson
ISDS No. 368189
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Harry is by my Red dog out of world record breaking £20,000 Henna
He is a terrific work dog, Plenty Push ,Superb temperament , Cool headed and a pleasure to work with.
Very Young dog with a great attitude. Will never let you down
Already has some terrific pups on the ground
Tested clear for the Laboklin ISDS panel
Dave
Owner: Gavin Fearon
ISDS No. 341471
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A proper hill dog with an engine in him. Dave gathers the Lake district hills for a living, and helps in the pens.
Dave has won trials and has a lovely temperament and will put scope and determination into is offspring.
Zac
Owner: Gwynfor Owen
ISDS No. 263935
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Owners Comments:
Zac is a classy, powerful dog who has never taken a backward step when working stock. He is a natural out runner and is equally at home on the hill or on the trials field. He is brown and white, pricked ears and has stamina to spare and he enjoys large difficult courses and has been a regular winner on the North Wales trials circuit. He has been a popular stud dog and has gained a reputation as a very good breeder of working and trial dogs.
He is DNA Normal
ISDS Registration No 263935 D.O.B 04.03.03
Kennel Club registration no. AM0901081
Microchip no. 981000002771171
Welsh team member 2009 and 2011
Welsh driving champion 2011
Talgarreg Double Fetch Trial 2010 - 4th
Deerplay Final 2007 - 2008 - 2009 and was was 2nd in 2009
Vivod Champion 2008
Todd
Owner:
ISDS No. 226528
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Owners Comments:
Easily handled, good outrunner and excellent driver. A sensible dog with a good nature and a proven breeder
Jock
Owner: Dewi Jenkins
ISDS No. 346553
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2022 International Supreme Champion. Semen eligible world wide including Australia and New Zealand.
Great breeding dog. Jock's offspring have sold for thousands of pounds in private sales and auctions. DNA normal for, CEA, MDR1, NCL, IGS, TNS, SN, GG.
Welsh Captain for the 2023 World trial
Storm
Owner: Ann Lou Daybell
ISDS No. 222108
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Storm is a proven sire of many open trial winners & top class working dogs. He is a natural, fluent mover with great power & authority to handle all types of sheep kindly. His temperament is 100% under all conditions, which is inherited by his offspring
Storm is DNA tested CEA Normal, therefore can never breed CEA affected puppies
Microchip - 956000000038996
Moss
Owner: Michael Longton
ISDS No. 229426
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Easily handled, good outrunner and excellent driver. A sensible dog with a good nature and a proven breeder
Llanfarian Mirk
Owner: Hefin Jones
ISDS No.
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Llanfarian Mirk (NL370217).
Date of birth - 12/09/2019
Microchip - 94100 00189 26784
Mirk is DNA clear on all 8 Laboklin ISDS Bundle tests and has also scored an “excellent” hip score (10).
He is the son of Medwyn Evans’ 2016 National Champion, Mac, who also came 4th in the Supreme at Tywyn that year. Mac is now with Serge Van der Zweep in Holland.
Mirk is a very well bred classy young dog, black and white smooth coated with an excellent temperament; a tremendous hill and farm dog. Very natural with plenty of power and stamina.
He ran in 2021 nurseries, winning four 1st places, one 2nd and one 4th, and went on to win the North Wales Nursery Final.
Second video is Erwood Kate. 10 months old when the video was taken. She is Medwyn Evans’ nursery bitch for the 2022 Autumn nurseries.
She is a daughter of Llanfarian Mirk, from the first bitch he covered, owned by Ian Jones, Erwood - Builth Wells.
Roy
Owner: Aled Owen
ISDS No. 266416
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ROY tested genetically Normal for CEA/CH, hence can be bred to any mate and will produce no pups affected with CEA/CH
2007 Supreme Champion and 2008 World Champion.
Kennel Club registration Cemig Roy AK0900700
Roy is a Key dog and is breeding quality work and trial dogs.
Telf Joff
Owner: Emma gray
ISDS No. 345555
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A son of Tweedale Jamie and Telf Stella.Everyone in the litter are working or trialing. Joff is a powerful young dog and happy on 300 or 3.Winner of the Northumberland Nursery League and is the 2019 English Nursery Champion.
Ingleborough Sergio
Owner: Megan Kerr
ISDS No.
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Ingleborough Sergio (Serge)
ISDS and KC registered
He is my main work dog, a very loyal dog willing to do anything works both cattle and sheep. He has lots of power but doesnt abuse it. Plenty of good breeding in him pedigree is below.
He is a very friendly good natured dog, who just lives to please.
Pups so far are doing well, level headed and easy to work with have videos available of some of them.
He is clear wisdom panel for 213 tests full test results at request these include EOAD
He is dna clear for Raine, IGS and TNS, GGD, NCL and MDR1 but is a CEA carrier through laboklin
Lots of videos on my tik tok:
https://www.tiktok.com/@megkerr547?_t=8V60sdXi7N7&_r=1
Boss
Owner: Lyn Howell
ISDS No. 343213
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Powerful work and trial dog.
An asset to any breeding programme.
Has bred some good offspring
KC registered
TNS Normal
CEA Normal
SN Normal
Raine Syndrome Normal
GGD Normal
MDR 1 Normal
NCL Normal
IGS Carrier
Jake
Owner: Timothy Longton
ISDS No. 254883
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Owners Comments:
Jake is a younger brother of Michael’s Moss a very consistent dog, with a good outrun always knowing where his sheep are, he is able to take almost any type of sheep round the course with a minimum of effort. He is good at the shed coming in quickly and with authority. Jake had a very successful nursery season, followed by making an impression on the prize list in open trials in his first season. He was reserve for the English team in 2004
Tip
Owner: Mark Aries
ISDS No. 230150
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Tip is a very good natured dog, who is easily handled. Stylish, he will work both cattle and sheep.
Glencregg Silver
Owner: James Mcgee
ISDS No. 00/327528
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Glencregg Silver
Silver's record speaks for itself. He is the best dog that I have ever worked with. From six months of age, I started to train him. And at under 8 months of age, he was on the trial field. And very quickly made his mark. Finishing 3rd in Nursery league ( Donegal Section ) and went on to win North of Ireland Nursery Final 2014 at 10 months of age . I am not quite sure , but I think Silver has won almost 15 opens, from February to August 2014. Being placed 6th in World Trial and crowned it off with winning the International Supreme Championship . I think he is the youngest dog to ever do this and also to win both Nursery Final and Supreme in the same year?
Silvers ability with sheep is the best I have ever seen. (And yes this is a big statement) . But Silver has a tremendous nack at landing at the right spot behind the sheep on the outrun. Sometimes looking as if he has stopped short and other times looking as if he has over shot. But if you wait until the sheep have lifted, you will discover that he is 100% correct every time. And he does this every time without command. Took me a little while to discover that he was best left to do this himself. Like his mother Becca , sheep seem to really like him . He applies the right amount of pressure, should the sheep be heavy or light. Just when I thought Silver couldn't impress me any more, he did. This happened in the final at he World Trial. Silver had a very good start. First outrun lift and fetch, almost perfect. Then on the turn back for the second packet of sheep, he got it wrong. Mainly my fault for not flanking him wide enough. And for such a young dog the amount of time spent trying to get him to go back on the right line. A fair amount of pressure applied, most dogs would have folded. But having reached the second packet from the wrong side. Silver just settled into the job, lifted the sheep and carried on as if nothing had ever happened. (A TRUE PROFESSIONAL) James P Mc Gee September 2014.
Open Trial Results Silver 2014
2nd Jan Loughlin Conn Limavady Co Derry 5th Place
9th Feb Charlie Flood Fanad Donegal 1st Place
23rd Feb Paul Rodgers Manor Donegal 5th Place
2nd March James P Mc Gee Creggan Ballybofey 1st Place
5th April Eamon McAuley Toome 1st Place
12th April Eamon McAuley Toome 1st Place
18th May Manorcunningham 3rd Place
17th May Eamon McAuley Toome 1st Place
24th May James P McGee Creggan Ballybofey 1st Place
30th May Allistair and David Lyttle Pettigo Trial One 4th Place
Trial Two 3rd Place
31st May Seamus Gallagher Newtowncrommelin 6th Place
14th June Glenravel and District Working Sheepdog Society Newtowncrommelin 1st Place
21st June Charlie Lynch Killen 1st Place
4th-6th July lsIe of man 1st Place qualifying trial day 2, Placed 3rd in double lift final.
19th July Plumbridge Co Tyrone 2nd Place
20th July Churchill Co. Donegal 1st Place
26th July Irish National 2014, Burt 8th Place
27th July Dunfanaghy Co. Donegal 1st Place
3rd August Termon and District Sheepdog Trials 1st Place
4th August Bonniconlon Co. Mayo 1st Place
5th August Clonmany Agricultural Show 1st Place
30th August North of Ireland SDS Trial 2nd Place
12th September 2014 Supreme Champion
Bob
Owner: Aled Owen
ISDS No. 224454
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By Carl 188967, out of Nel 171678
- Reserve Welsh Champion - 2000
- Int. Farmers Champion - 2000
- Int. Supreme Champion - 2000
- World Sheepdog Trials Champion - 2002'
- Reserve Welsh Champion 2004
Microchip - 968000000094546, hip score - 8
Please note - BOB has tested genetically Normal for CEA/CH, hence can be bred to any mate and will produce no pups affected with CEA/CH
Jim
Owner: Paddy Fanning
ISDS No.
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Jim was 2nd in the Irish Nursery final in 2019 and 9th in the European Nursery Championship. Jim has won open trials in Ireland and England (Jed is his registered name)
Jim is dna clear for CEA, TNS, SN, MDR1 and most likely clear for IGS (Igs was not on the panel but his first 2 sons tested were clear)
Jim is a very cool dog and a lovely character, always in the same mood. He has plenty of power and stamina. he has nice very balance and feel but not too much eye which means that there is no stickiness in him around the lift, shedding, etc.
Jim is not just a trial dog, he is also a very useful work dog. I work him on the mountain and he is good to spot sheep at distance and a good outrunner. He is completely reliable and dependable over long days and difficult ground on the hill and in testy situations.
Jim's very first 2 sons made a combined price of €10,000, at 7 and 9months of age.
Clwyd Bob
Owner: Dewi Jenkins
ISDS No. 367060
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Bob won the Ceredigion Nursery League in his first year on the Winter trial fields. Bob won 5 major trials in his first year in open competition last year.
Dewi says about Bob, that he has speed, power, class, and scope. Bob is breeding well to a variety of different bitches. An International handler sold a young dog by him at 8 months old for £8,600,which was top price in the partly trained section of the Dolgellau on line winter sale.
Renowned breeder, another renowned Welsh breeder has been selling top price pups off Bob.
B & W Sean
Owner: Cathy Cassie
ISDS No.
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Sean is a top class work and trial dog, a great out runner, able to gather every sheep off a field. He is very versatile, undertaking all jobs on the farm and very capable whether moving a large flock, lambing, working in the pens or working two lambs.
He has been regularly placed in open trials and is fully pointed at English National level.
He has wonderful natural style and balance, and passes this on to his offspring.
He is blue Merle with mottles and carries tricolour.
Sean is DNA tested normal for CEA SN TNS MDR1 EODD.
Sean is a carrier for IGS. He has an excellent hip score.
Jim
Owner: Thomas Longton
ISDS No. 238571
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Easily handled, good outrunner and excellent driver. A sensible dog with a good nature and a proven breeder
Sango Gannon
Owner: Jessica Saukkonnen
ISDS No. 342455
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CEA / TNS / IGS / SN Normal
Healthy hips, elbows and back
Natural outrunner, confident and on his sheep, forward and free moving, very cool head and a good listener. Effective work dog both out in the open and in the pens.
First Nursery win at 11 months, Open wins and has run in the English National since 2 yo.
Social and calm nature, easy to have around.
Llangwym Cap
Owner: Aled Owen
ISDS No. 315270
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A natural dog who could be the best dog I have ever had. A natural outrunner with bags of power and breeding well to a variety of bitches.
2015 Welsh National Champion and Supreme International Champion
2015 Supreme and International Champion
Llangwm Cap Clear IGS
Llangwm Cap Clear NCL
Llangwm Cap Carrier TNS
CH. Caymenstaffs Blackthorn
Owner: Rob Robb
ISDS No. KC Registered
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Blackthorn also known as Thorn, is a proven breeder and health tested. He has a superb temperament but with power and presence. He is a U.K. Champion with many Challenge Certificates and Best of Breed titles to his name.
Thorn came first at Crufts in the yearling class 2017.
Moss
Owner: Sion Morgan
ISDS No. 381327
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Moss always wants to please and has a tremendous attitude towards work. He has plenty of forward gears for sheep with a nice balance and feel for his sheep.
Couple that with a big heart, loads of stamina and 100% temperament.
He is DNA normal on the Laboklin bundle.
The pedigree of Moss is impressive. Clwyd Bob and Supreme Champion Jock, Supreme Champion Glencregg Silver and World Champion Becca on the sires side. Complemented with Serge van der Zweep's Gary, Ricky Hutchinson's Supreme Champion Jock, reserve Supreme Champion Sweep, Supreme Champion Mo, Supreme Champion Mc Vicar's Spot and Bobby Dalziel's Spot and Jim on the other.